They got into top universities and never experienced all that childhood burnout. They are tearing down the door to learn and college professors we know love students like these, who come to class wanting to learn and hungry to soak up as much as they can. One homeschool mom told me just the other day, my daughter has come out of her K academic journey with an unbridled love of learning.
How many schooled teens can lay claim to the same ethos? September 12th, at 2: Thanks for the advice, Homework Blues. I do try to get in bed by the latest 9: September 13th, at 1: November 14th, at Anonymous, I hear you. When I mention how many hours of homework it takes, some on this blog blame the student. But as you say, she takes a hit. Those lower grades do show up on her transcript.
November 14th, at 2: However, if these grades are based upon incompletion of homework and not mastery of the subject, we need to rethink our grading policies in high school. I have re-read some of the classics I was assigned in college.
I am 25 right now. I dropped out of my second year of high school, and actually home schooled myself due to the intense stress. This only got worse as I proceeded towards high school. I went from a straight A student to a nearly straight F student, and all during those crucial years that really make your question your self worth, and self esteem. Was I able to go to a top university? Was it worth it?
The bigger issue at hand, and maybe not everyone here will agree with me — But these intense high school requirements are not, at all, preparing you for college. Matter of fact, I very thoroughly believe that high school is a lot more difficult, and harder on a student compared to college. There are no hours of useless homework or studying, simply the student doing the work they feel is necessary to learn and succeed with.
Many people assume it guarantees it. When will it stop? Or will there be a reversal where employers will have to look BEYOND the certificate and find people who may not have had the best grades, but are really passionate about their work? A masters has just become a standard. All in all, it becomes frustrating. Determination and ability show through, at least, eventually. I will never, however, mistake that for job security.
I have seen way too many people raised on this belief only to later fall on their face after college and feel puzzled as to where they went wrong. November 20th, at I still have another history essay to write, and two summaries to write for English.
Luckily I finished all my other subjects. The pressures are incredibly intense. Every period of my school day, aside from lunch and PE, are honors or AP, and I get plenty of homework from them. My main issue is undoubtedly homework. Originally, up through about freshman year, I maintained myself and had good study habits; I worked through all the homework, rigorous as it was.
However, through sophomore year to now, school has just knocked me down. I score highly on tests, essays, and basically any other in class assignment. My averages are deflated, however, in classes that give large amounts of homework.
History is by far the worst. Essay after essay and project after project that are completely irrelevant from the tests are given regularly. My homework average is lower than my test scores.
It saps my motivation. Sometimes I find myself unwilling to do assignments or simply doing them poorly. I am positive I have the capacity to do each individual assignment very well, but when all are piled on at once in a never ending sequence with no time and no sleep, I suffer.
The worst part is that at least half the classes I take I have no use for, and take solely for the fact honors weight classes look good on college applications. So not only am I wasting my time with homework, but I am also slaving away toward an effort that is essentially useless for me anyway.
The culmination of all these factors is simple: The school system does not care, and teachers teach by telling kids to work themselves. Also, whoever mentions that it would be better to simply settle for a B or C does not understand the situation. For one, colleges are already competitive enough and while I would be healthier in every sense of the word if I stopped with the homework, my grades would plummet and I would not be able to get into my ideal schools.
Every one of my classes by itself is not extraordinarily difficult based on its tests, but by the homework given by each, and total volume of effort needed for every class together impedes me, which lowers my averages in them all. To add to that, they are ignorant of the fact that their class is not the only one in the building. They give workloads that are barely tolerable on their own, but are pure hell when added into everything else.
I have no time for friends, family, or anything other than school. So now, to be direct, I have to go back to homework at this late hour, and then get up at 6: Oh, and the best part! Things never go perfectly.
Still, if this is high school, what is college? November 25th, at 4: My child is in Grade 3 and I want to make certain that her story does not end like the last two commentors. When I read your story, Knocked Down, all I can think is …where are your parents? Why are they not shutting this down? I feel a parent has a responsibility to protect their child from unfair labour practices. November 25th, at 8: Knocked Down, I really want to read your entire comment.
I fell asleep last night and woke up at 3am to find my daughter still up. And people would call this kid lazy. My sympathies are with you. November 25th, at I make her go to bed. Yes, it means reduced grades. She takes less APs than other kids at her school. If you put it eloquently, people will listen. I sometimes fall asleep like last night. Her health and well being are more important. PsychMom, you asked about my parents and their stance on the matter. They have always supported me, and have sometimes told me to settle for a lower grade.
They hate it as much as I do. The work keeps me locked up in my room all day. Still, while they agree that homework does more harm they good, they also see it as a necessary evil, and I am made to do it. His opinion is primarily that if I came home, went right to work and did it non-stop, I would be able to get a closer to satisfactory amount of sleep each night.
At the expense of the small fragment of a life I have left. Good Grades, Sleep and a Life. Which two do you want? I think being happy is more important than a dream college. In the end the job you obtain will boil down to your ability and determination, not what college you went to.
November 26th, at November 26th, at 8: We started hearing that line as soon as my daughter got accepted. November 26th, at 9: November 29th, at 1: December 5th, at 8: I have had my galbladder out and have constant stomach pains and ulcers now because of how sick I made myself stressing about grades it ruined me please I wouldnt wish this on anyone.
Sounds like high school entails far more work then college. Not that there is all that much learning going on here, but I think the freedom will increase exponentially. High school, as an educational institution is completely worthless from an educational viewpoint I believe. I gave a speech on the matter a few years ago in a public speaking [honors level] course, and convinced my professor to have her daughter skip high school. It is, from what I can tell, only a detriment to students, never a benefit.
I think that alone speaks volumes. Good luck to anyone who chooses to stick with it. I think I understand all the partying that goes on at college now [I myself dislike them, but most students here spend more time partying than studying].
A good company will get you into, and pay for high education if you prove yourself a valuable asset. February 8th, at 4: Anonymous I appreciate your message but wonder, Do people who are 15 and 16 years old get internships?
I can understand homeschooling and taking college courses but I would think you have to be a pretty ambitious go-getter to get into the world of work at 15…. February 9th, at 8: Yes, teens can and do get internships. Some schools help kids get them and some get them on their own.
February 9th, at 9: March 31st, at 5: On the post regarding skipping high school for college, this actually makes a lot of sense. This approach has been really picking up steam for 2e kids, in particular.
You can also choose to do this as part of a homeschool package and then send your kid off, if she wants, at age The reason it works for 2kids is, school presents two options: If you skip high school in lieu of college, you can take your time.
Keep the challenge but take fewer courses. It eliminates the pressure of high school where kids juggle seven courses, are dangerously sleep deprived and can really burn out by graduation. My friend who did this was asked, but what about the high school prom? March 31st, at 9: Albert Einstein said that the one thing left to do after public education is educate yourself. This is completely true. Institutionalized education is brainwashing our children. I attend a public religious school in Europe and the amount of homework we have every night is phenomenal.
School starts at 9. This is absolutely ridiculous, I am 16 years old. Nobody, anywhere, should have to do this amount of work a day. Children today are so over-scheduled that they do not know how to think properly anymore. April 12th, at You must be joking, so stop with the exaggerations.
Nobody gets that much homework, honestly. If you do, switch schools. April 26th, at 8: Jasmin, lots and lots of teens actually do get that much homework. If you or your child does not, great. No, I would not advise people to stop complaining. April 27th, at 6: May 6th, at 1: I went to a college prep school in high school.
My parents got me a scolarship because we were middle class and that was the only way we could afford it. I had to keep my grades up to keep the scolarship, so I was up until early in the morning 2 or 3 am every night doing my schoolwork. I used to love school and learning. Excessive homework changed that; by the end of 9th grade, school was just something to be endured.
I like college better than high school. May 16th, at 5: Somehow 6 hours seems a bit exaggerated, however it is possible. When I asked one of my classmates how much it took her to complete a project, she told me that it was about 40 minutes for her. I literally gave up on homework. Well I did some but very rarely and only the important ones. My grades in this year were… pathetic. I only used my knowledge that I got before. Just a example I want to name.
Then why oh why do I hate reading so much? The answer is school. Then after reading about 4 books chosen by myself I actually found out I enjoy reading. But every-time I pick up a book which is in the school program I literally die of boredom.
Self education is the way to go. And you know whats funny? The first language I am being taught at school I already started to forget. I can barely speak Latvian anymore. Sorry for the negativity. June 17th, at 5: Thank you so much for posting this! In middle school, I was a top-scoring student. Over the years, I had formed strong relationships with my peers and my teachers.
I knew that I wanted to succeed, and I honestly believed that I could. Now, however, high school has begun. Each teacher has promised us that this is only the beginning — that we can expect his or her class to become increasingly time-consuming within the oncoming weeks. That would be okay, except that everyone has said it: I was awake doing homework until at least one usually later every night last week, then awake at 5: I loved middle school; I was so involved, so sure of myself.
I worked hard — I frequently spent late nights doing homework — but I never felt so overwhelmed that I wanted to give up entirely. And I always subconsciously knew that if I did become overwhelmed, I could explain the situation to a teacher, and he or she would understand.
But now the response would be the same from everyone: They accuse us of wasting hours of the night on Facebook or watching television, yet they fail to realize that it is often the stress and pressure that so much homework exerts on us that compels us to take breaks. I spent the summer writing a history essay, an English essay, and working on Spanish projects. I was already fed up with homework by the time I entered school in September. On September 14, he lost the primary.
That night, my entire family gathered at a restaurant to watch the polls. I wanted desperately to go, to see my family and to support my dad, yet I had too much homework. The following morning, the local newspaper showed a picture of my dad, my mom, and my two sisters together as the results came in. Like Sophia, I love school.
I love to learn and to succeed, and I know that I can be successful. Most of all, I miss reading. An English teacher in middle school was extremely inspirational: I spend an three hours on assignments that could probably be completed in two-and-a-half hours. But, considering the way that my teachers grade, I have no other option. School has sparked competitions and resentment between my friends, stress in my family, and exhaustion. I want to spend time with my family, to practice violin, to read classic novels of my choice, and to simultaneously succeed in school.
I know that sounds insane to some people, but many students in my school know exactly what I am talking about. And yet, as I think about the essay I have to finish before Monday, the science test, the English test, and the week ahead, I feel defeated. October 3rd, at 7: October 6th, at Reading all these has really given me strength, actually.
Honestly, it seems like I have the responsibility of a 25 year old! After an average of hours of homework every night, I am expected to help around the house, make my own meal because I am a vegetarian and the rest of my family is not , and get into bed by 9: I used to love to read for hours in bed- now I sneak a flashlight under the covers and finish my Physics homework.
You would think my parents would understand because my mom went to Georgetown and became an attorney right away. Neither of them seem to understand the weight load of my homework nowadays, and my relationship with them is sickening due to my anger and irritation. I have become very sensitive and depressed, and I often nearly cry in the middle of my Algebra class when I see how much homework we have. Reading the above comments, it seems like many of you are feelig the exact same.
It is not so much that I have my parents or teachers expecting me to get perfect grades- I pressure myself. It has come to the point that If I get a B on an assignment, it is a failire. I am very sorry for the rant, and I probably seem really whiny, but I needed to get it out.
It seems like nobody else understands that school is so important to me. I have noticed such a personality and behavior change ever since junior high, and it makes me really sad sometimes. October 13th, at After reading this article, i nearly fell to my knees.
Unfortunatly, im in the same situation. I just started year 9 grade 8 and so far, its not going so well. I get atleast 6 hours of homework a day, along with netball practice and scuba diving for nearly 2 hours each. Our school has provided us with a homework timetable, but it seems that the teachers arent paying much attention to it.
Our science teacher is unbearable sorry to say: Science is the most terrifying topic when it comes to homework. We get at least 3 hours of science homework, everyday. We even have double lessons, and thats when we get double the homework, and its usually due the next day. Last week, i had 2 reports due, 10 double-paged sheets, and 4 pages of textbook questions due on the same day! I do allocate my time correctly- and i dont slack off. I usually come home after school at 3: I barely have time to eat my lunch.
I go upstairs, open up my laptop, and start the homework. All the students in my class decided to complain about the homework- especially science, but we were afraid. On wednesday, we told our science teacher that we have a homework timetable you have to follow.
We told him that we can read it for him and it clearly says that your not supposed to give us homework today. He said that if u have time to complain, you have time to do your homework. And that was pretty much the end of it. In math, my fellow classmate ripped out a paper from his maths book , and passed it around the class. He said that if we wanted our science teacher to follow the homework timetable, we had to sign it. I refused, because i thought that it might be a bit too much.
On saturday, the first thing im going to do is sign my name on to that piece of paper. October 14th, at This has been helpful in my research, and i completely agree. You have been very helpful Sophia, keep up the good work! January 24th, at 7: My parents have begun to acknowledge that I am overburdened by A. Most teachers not all, of course tend to blame late nights on poor time management and procrastination, but, truthfully, most A students procrastinate little. If they do, the procrastination is a result of dread: I think the real issue is the every teacher feels obligated to assign a hefty chunk of homework every night.
To neglect to assign homework is like slacking off, so, teachers dish out assignments whether or not they are necessary. Many teachers, however, fail to realize that most students take classes each day, and that each teacher feels a similar obligation.
The result is an afternoon, evening, and night consumed by work following an entire school day. Students need to be taught in class. Instead of expecting us to learn the information at home, she could be teaching us the concepts. My history and science teacher do the same: We all need time for ourselves: But right now, I feel as if high school has taken a part of me, as if I have to put life on pause for four years in order to succeed.
February 7th, at 9: I would hate to be in your situation. I thought we had allot of homework but after reading this i notice that I have it easy. We also have laptops and have a presentation a week in speech, Constantly work in economics, have an Algebra assignment a night, are constantly working on stuff in English, and rarely have projects in Physical Science and agri.
With this I have plenty of time to spend in Band and Color Guard. If you really get sick of it transfer to another school.
February 23rd, at April 5th, at 2: Too much homework kills. I can only hope that it only takes me about hours to complete and not 6. I really hope you get your life back. July 8th, at 3: Homework almost killed me. If there was no summer, I would have become suicidal. I was skipping lunches to get some of my work done so I could have a single hour of free time. It ruined my relationship with my family.
October 11th, at As her parents, we monitored carefully, adjusted accordingly read. Your health is the most important thing here and were always on the lookout for the fallout.
October 12th, at 3: Not many of my teachers give me too much homework. Last weekend, I got 14 pages of Maths homework. I spent 4 hours on Saturday in the library, and 3 hours on Sunday, at home.
By the end of it I was almost in tears of happiness that I had finished it!! October 20th, at 5: I have had similar experiences to many of the people who have left comments on this site before me. Not just junior year, but all of high school. Summer vacations are my saving grace.
I typically have hrs of homework a night. I often find myself abandoning my family at meal times, instead scarfing down my food quickly, standing alone in the kitchen. I feel tired all the time, and I get sick easily. I am depressed, anxious, and extremely stressed, and I feel that the excessive amounts of homework I am assigned every day can take the blame.
I often come home, riled up, frustrated, and upset about the amount of work I have to do. My days almost always end in tears, and this in turn creates a lot of tension elsewhere. I am exhausted, and about ready to give up. At my school, we have a student handbook. In the handbook, it clearly states that students should have no more than 2 hrs of homework in total every night. Most teachers understand this as each one of them gets to assign 2hrs of homework every night.
Teachers also have no clue about how much time work takes, especially for people who care about their grades. For example, my Pre-Calculus teacher assigned us 25 questions for homework. This sounds reasonable until you realize that each question has parts a-f in it. This adds up to questions. One hour in and I still had 40 more to go. My mom is a teacher, but she is on my side.
High school has been a disaster for me so far. I envy those people who seem to take the copious amounts of work in their stride. I have had to give up all of my free time and it is driving me crazy. November 7th, at 8: Student above, thank you for taking the time to spell it out for us.
But they are twice exceptional and the school does not offer accommodations. The best she could get, after many meetings and a pricey consultant, is an extra day to turn things in. The student above is not exaggerating. I urge every teacher to read carefully what this student wrote. And this goes for parents as well who believe that working kids to death prepares them for life. It only prepares them for exhaustion, burnout and depression. If we made adults work this hard, there would be a riot.
There is NO adult reading this site who works as hard as the student above. She is not exaggerating. My daughter attended a high achieving high school. If I needed to meet with my daughter bring her something, talk to her about something time sensitive , I dropped by at lunch. They were bleary eyed from serious sleep deprivation and weighted down with overstuffed backpacks. My heart just broke, watching them. They were hardworking, smart, earnest, aimed to please.
They wanted to be in an environment with other like minded serious learners. Rather than celebrate this unique vibrant place of learning, adults in their midst merely took advantage of their commitment.
Not a single gifted organization supports this misguided and extremely dangerous approach. November 7th, at 9: In Middle School, I was a perfectionist. I got straight As and enough sleep, but I had lost my yearning to learn. I had no social life, was always anxious, and developed a sleeping problem. Instead of learning, I memorized. I got awards for being such a good student, and that pushed me to be even harder on myself.
I was afraid to let myself go and be happy because I felt that that would somehow make me not serious about school. The summer going into Freshman year of high school, it dawned on me that if I keep my perfectionism up, I will end up going to an amazing college and being miserable.
I learned how to be happy, relax, and act like the kid I was. As soon as high school started I stopped trying to be perfect. I joined clubs, sports teams, made great friends, and got good grades. I have stopped trying to fit into what colleges want, but rather be myself and explore the colleges that fit me. Today I am a happy sophomore. I learn, relax, sleep, eat, excersize, and laugh everyday. I am the Vice President of my class, almost always make honor roll, and an avid skiier.
I do this because I want to, and not because I think it will look good on my college transcripts. The point in life is to balance and combine success and happiness. In the article, Butnik focuses on twice exceptional students—gifted students who also have additional learning challenges such as a learning disability or attention deficit disorder. By contrast, when these twice-exceptional 2e children are understood and well-addressed educationally, they can become treasures who shine in unique ways.
Your standards are too high! So whenever you can, model your own strategies with teacher think-alouds, and get other students to do the same thing. They hate this, by the way, because they want me to just tell them what to do.
But more than half the time, when they re-read the instructions, they discover some detail they had overlooked the first time around. Use this one carefully, though: For some students, it could cause even more anxiety and make them shut down completely. And depending on the person, some tasks seem larger than others. Show the student how to take any assignment and break it into small, manageable chunks.
Then put those chunks on some kind of checklist, so the student can mark off items as he finishes them. Lauren Bright often gives her second graders a list of tasks to complete. When she noticed that some of her students took a lot longer than most to complete written assessments, high school English teacher Ruth Arseneault decided to add estimated times in parentheses beside each item.
She found that this simple tweak helped slower-paced students get better at planning their work and rationing the time they spent on each task. This principle could be expanded to almost any classroom task: You use it when you get stuck on a writing task.
Although he often lets his students take work home to finish, high school English and journalism teacher Gerard Dawson will have his slow-working students complete a specific portion of a task and show it to him before they take the rest home.
She alternates between the kinds of activities that require close attention to detail, like polished pieces, with quicker tasks that require a less rigid approach, like free writes, where students just have to get their ideas down as fast as possible. Instructional coach Gretchen Schultek Bridgers advises students who get stuck on an item, especially on a test, to mark it with a small post-it note, a highlighter, or a star as a reminder to come back to the item later.
This kind of strategy will be useful to everyone, not just your slow working students. Talk about this process as a team effort. Then debrief afterwards to see how it worked. What Works for You? Share them in the comments so we can all learn together. Classroom Management , Instruction. Any ideas for slow note takers? I teach high school world history and slow note takers drive me crazy! Any strategies to get them moving? I can lose a whole class chatty while one or two people finish writing notes.
Take a look at item 2 on this post about ineffective teaching practices. I hope this helps! I am generally a slow worker, but I was always fast at note taking. In a high school class I would have about 10 pages of notes at the end of a semester, where other students took 10 pages a week. Some kids are slow note takers because they need some OT or PT therapies.
All should see a special eye doctor called Vision Therapist to test if his eyes are able to work together. He may have a neurological disorder that inhibits his brain from tell his hand wht to write. But, until any of that gets done, ask the best student if she would get her notes copied wherever there is a copier and give them to you so you could give them to a student who has trouble writing.
Decades ago we used carbon paper. This is something that often occurs in my classroom and is something that I have personally struggled with as well. I connected with this both as a teacher and learner! Thanks for the tips! Great ideas thank you. At times, during writing I rule off where the children need to write too. I also tell them that they can write past the line and usually they do. They even get quite excited about it. I teach 8 and 9 year olds.
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